POLL: Is the Creator of This Blog a “Paid Disinformation Agent”?

One thing that never ceases to astonish me about believers in conspiracy theories is how incapable they are of accepting disagreement. The movie Thrive, packed to the gills with conspiracy theories, naturally attracts a lot of these types. If the comments I’ve received on this blog are any indication, there are a lot of Thrive fans out there who believe that no one could disagree with the movie or refute its messages without being paid to do so–in short, many of them believe I’m a “paid disinformation agent.”

The accusation is so ludicrous it’s almost funny. The idea that anybody, much less the government, would actually pay me to write blogs about Internet conspiracy movies is prima facie evidence of not only paranoia so severe as to constitute delusion, but also profound ignorance of how the world actually works. The accusations would be funny if they weren’t so sad. Here is a scattering of some of the comments I’ve received to this effect:

“We are awake Mr. goverment disinfo man, and we are staring you in the face. Your emperor has no clothes.” (link)

“No individual without some vested interest and agenda would go through all this effort about a recent documentary. There is no way some random dude who watched Thrive would make a blog like this.” (link)

“In Thrive, they talk about the corruption of the FDA, and drug companies, so, debunk this you government troll.” (link)

[In response to a statement where I clearly assert I’m not being paid by anyone to write this blog:] “Highly doubt the above statements after reading through your website..” (link)

These accusations aren’t new to me. I’ve been accused of being a “paid disinformation agent” since I first started debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories, seven years ago. A fervent conspiracy theorist on my old MySpace blog (defunct now for years) accused me of working for the CIA. Last summer, an “authority” no less lofty than Peter Joseph Merola, the leader of the now largely-defunct Zeitgeist Movement (which heavily promoted conspiracy theories), made the accusation. It was made against me again by Douglas Mallette, another prominent member of the Zeitgeist Movement, back in January. Not a single person has ever produced a single shred of evidence that I’m paid by anyone to write these blogs. That’s not surprising–there is no evidence, because I’m not paid. That should go without saying, but surprisingly, many people think otherwise.

The traditional narrative in conspiracy theorist circles usually involves a long-defunct government program called COINTELPRO–Counter Intelligence Program–whereby the FBI sent agent provocateurs to infiltrate, and keep tabs on, political organizations in the 1960s and 1970s. COINTELPRO has been defunct since 1971, but this doesn’t stop conspiracy theorists from claiming–again, without a single shred of evidence–that the program is supposedly still active. Conspiracy theorists also like to cite “Project Vigilance,” an abortive idea floated by the military in the early 2000s to encourage civilian bloggers to post articles supportive of the Iraq War. If this project ever got off the ground, it never made it very far; certainly, now that the Iraq War is over, there is no evidence that “Project Vigilance” exists in any coordinated or meaningful sense.

This is all beside the point, however. Even if COINTELPRO or Project Vigilance did actually exist, I’m certainly not a part of either one, nor have I ever been; I’m also not a part of any other program, going by any name (or no name), sponsored by anyone, any agency, any business interest, or anyone anywhere. I answer to no one; I’m not paid, directed or encouraged by anyone to write this blog or my other blog. I’m a private citizen and I’m simply angry that a film with as many factual inaccuracies and conspiracy theories as Thrive has attained the level of popularity that it has. It’s really not too hard to understand this motivation, and it certainly requires no monetary reward for me to advance it.

Nevertheless, there are readers of this blog who will never, under any circumstances, accept even the bare possibility that I’m not a “paid disinformation agent” working for somebody to discredit Thrive. Although I do not know for sure, it’s even remotely possible that Foster Gamble himself might suspect I’m being paid by the government to write this blog; I know that he has referred to critics of Thrive as “government trolls,” though I do not know whether he meant me specifically. What is undeniable is that many Thrive fans believe I am a “paid disinformation agent,” and even if I was interested in convincing them that I am not–which, in fact, does not really interest me very much–no amount of evidence, or lack of evidence, would ever convince them.

I’m curious, however, exactly how many Thrive fans hold this view and how prevalent it is. Consequently, at the bottom of this page you’ll find a poll where you can vote as to whether you think I’m a “paid disinformation agent” or not. I don’t expect the results of this poll to really be accurate–after all, probably the most paranoid of Thrive fans would be afraid that I could somehow log the IP addresses of everyone who votes “yes” and put them on some sort of black list. Nonetheless, just for grins, I’m putting up the poll anyway.

Am I really a “paid disinformation agent”? Here’s your chance to register your opinion! As they say in various corrupt precincts, vote early and vote often! I’ll do an update on this blog once significant numbers of results come in. In the meantime, run the anti-spyware software on your computer frequently. I may be logging your keystrokes and uploading them to the CIA central database in Quantico!

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40 responses to “POLL: Is the Creator of This Blog a “Paid Disinformation Agent”?”

  1. SlayerX3 says :

    I’m still waiting for my payment.

    For those who don’t know what sarcasm, irony and how the internet works, that was a joke.

  2. Rehsab Thgir says :

    COINTELPRO is dead. Other infiltration programs are part and parcel of local, state and federal police work for better or worse (usually worse). This, however, is beside the point. An agent provocateur who went into a movement, which you haven’t, and proceeded to debunk some of the core beliefs of that movement would be a truly incompetent agent provocateur indeed. Agent provocateurs egg on people, pretending to be on their side.

    Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow

    • Rehsab Thgir says :

      I forgot to add that Ron Paul is a kook.

      • Myles O'Howe says :

        The disinformation out there is to prevent people from reaching accurate conclusions and connecting the dots and to also make people give up doing research and a proper investigation! This blog is not doing that it is proving perspectives and information in a proper context. I started making a documentary called Thrive Exposed and to be honest when I first seen thrive I told myself there is NO way I can cover everything wrong with this, I better start somewhere!

        Youtube Playlist: Thrive Exposed

        If I don’t detail everything I will be attacked by paul-bots. COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.

        The FBI counterintelligence program’s stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Security Interests. “National Security” means the FBI’s security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people’s civil liberties.

        The connections are not few. Ron Paul wrote a book called The Case for Gold with Lewis Lehrman. Lew is a papal knight (Sovereign Military Order of Malta) Lew was on the board of directors of The Project for a New American Century. Ron Paul refuses to participate in a further investigation into the crimes of September 11, 2001.

        http://watchdog.net/p/ron_paul/contrib-employers
        ron paul gets support from the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX

        Ron Paul was inducted into the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity. One ritual practice of Lambda Chi Alpha is CIRCUMAMBULATION. This is a common practice is found in the initiation of Witches and is practiced in Freemasonry.

        Butcher of Russia, Vladimir Lenin, was a Freemason. Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) became a Freemason of the 33rd degree in the Scottish rite and was a hardcore Devil worshiper, who in 1904 referred to himself as “The Beast 666.” Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek was a 33rd Degree Scottish-Rite Freemason. What Enterprise Do you Think? Barack Obama said “I grew up on Star Trek. I believe in the final frontier.”

        Hitler had practiced meditation and self-control of his will and was strongly committed to the occult, especially black magic. It is very interesting that in 1934 Hitler gave orders that all public occult installations were to be closed down in Germany. The Nazi regime in their official statement to the German people told them that there was no merit in occult activity and that from now on it was forbidden for Germans to engage in the occult. All prophetic activity, magic research and producing and reading occult books was declared illegal. What the Nazi party did not let the German people know was that the Nazi party went into overdrive in the occult world, but wanted no competition from ordinary Germans.

        Did you know that GCN the network which carries Alex Jones and Jeff Rense is an ABC affiliate? Yes, ABC as in the Disney-owned American Broadcasting Corporation the epitome of mainstream corporate media and home of propagandists such as Peter Jennings. It is well known that the CIA have been allowed by our past Presidents and members of the congress to operate through our News sources and media and do mind control experimentation on the public (Operation Mockingbird, MK ULTRA)
        http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Jones-CIA.htm

        http://okkulte-nazis.blogspot.com/2011/02/it-began-in-germany_24.html
        http://www.spirituallysmart.com/911.html
        http://www.spirituallysmart.com/ron_paul.html
        http://www.detaxcanada.org/treason.htm
        http://www.detaxcanada.org/tyranny.htm
        http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm
        http://www.foia.cia.gov/2025/2025_Global_Governance.pdf

      • muertos says :

        Wow. You are astonishingly paranoid.

      • Rehsab Thgir says :

        I forgot to add that Ron Paul supporters are kooks.

      • NonFiction says :

        No, the doc is not a kook, but maybe they tried to connect him with this wacko movie to discredit him, too. You made that point yourself in your previous comment….or didn’t you realize that?

      • Rehsab Thgir says :

        Myles, you are a kook. Go away. You wouldn’t know “proper investigation” if it came up to you and pinched you.

      • Rehsab Thgir says :

        Nonfiction, Ron Paul is a kook. End of story.

      • Idiot Hollywood Tomfortas says :

        I agree completely any idiot that thinks our constitution is worth abiding by and following is definitely a “kook”!
        I think the republic national convention was completely correct in hiding ron pauls name because who in america would want more liberties when we really need security! There are terrorists everywhere and we need safety! And we are running out of oil to burn so those dirt countries better give it up or we’ll take it!
        I think all those dumb people, not us of course, need to be told how to act and they need to be enforced with our police state… i mean police officers.
        This idea of “the constitution” being the law of the land needs to change, only people with money understand the law and if you aint got it then you are too stupid to know anything else!

  3. Teraph says :

    If all they’re presented with are denouncements of their points of view as factually incorrect then conspiracists will be unable to get beyond accusations of disinformation.

    They don’t properly understand the reasons why their views are politically suspect and dangerous, as many critics of conspiracism don’t always explain it in any detail but rather just focus on factual inaccuracies. It’s necessary and a good place to begin with, but the issues at stake are more far-reaching than that and need to be addressed from a political and philosophical as well as fact-based perspective.

  4. 2012_CT says :

    Muertos is a SP, yes a suppressive person and from the skeptic project! Muertos also suppressived Adolf Hitler so Destinians can no longer channel him from the afterlife!

  5. clonus says :

    You can debunk these things all you want, but really it’s hard to tell whether these things have any effect at all.
    The thing you mentioned about how they think that the only way someone would spend this much energy is if it really were true could mean that this is doing more harm than good.
    I mean usually people debunk things because it sucks to see people fall for scams (ok sometimes they do it because it’s hilarious, but still), so maybe its time for some sort of new approach. i.e. looking into how persuasive a write up is, coming up with new and practical ways to combat these things, etc.
    Maybe the answer lies in mimicking the way capitalism motivates workers, or the way magazines make people want to be overly thin, or maybe some less nefarious things.

    I don’t know how to do it, but maybe it would make sense to seriously look into these things

  6. Rex Crosley says :

    There are plenty of wacko, moron, infiltrator jerks on the internet. I’m sure nobody had to pay you.

  7. boohowdy says :

    People who spend too much time defending or debunking something usually have an agenda. Whether it’s this blog or the maker of Thrive. Free energy sounds nice, but, sounds a lot like free money to me.

  8. Hollywood Tomfortas says :

    ****** BREAKING NEWS FROM THE THRIVE UNIVERSE ******

    Exciting, earth shattering news!!!

    Are you all sitting down?

    This is the news you’ve all been waiting for!

    Yes, ladies and gentlemen of the THRIVE Universe — both bona fide evolution-favored THRIVERS and narrow-minded devolving debunkers alike . . . .

    FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . .
    As of today, Good Friday 2012, the entire movie THRIVE can now be accessed online for free!!!

    FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . . FREE!!! . . . .

    Yes indeed Foster & Co. have recouped their cost, so like any good capitalist . . ., whoops, I mean THRIVE venture, they have decided to offer it for free viewing.

    Go here and click around to see the movie for free.

    http://www.thrivemovement.com/home

    (Heh, Heh, Heh, what a great move for the black-ops/psy-ops agencies behind the puny low-level paid disinformation agents like me and Muertos! By offering it for free now, Foster Gamble enables the most widespread and comprehensive Internet tracking database of users who download the film from the Thrive website. (See, it was a lot harder to track users in the early days on pirated sites. That’s why Foster had to crack down and ban all the pirated copies on YouTube, etc. But now, with everyone downloading from the same website, then the task of data collection is totally simplified.

    And of course, thanks to Google —- which may soon become an actual Cabinet level agency in the Federal government —- the above mentioned black-ops/psy-ops agencies will be able to profile the Thrivers so well that they can begin to take their proper places in the re-educations camps.)

    ——————–
    *** Oh, Muertos, I forgot to tell you. I got word from one of our handlers that the “higher-ups” really liked my idea of re-naming the FEMA camps and calling them “FEMA campuses.” They agreed with me that calling them “FEMA camps” sounded too Nazi-like and since the agenda is all about re-education, then why not call them “FEMA Campuses.” I really look forward to my new teaching career and it will be really fun and exciting to reveal ourselves (me & Muertos and other teachers) to the many commenters here when they find themselves in the new FEMA classrooms and we identify ourselves to them. ***
    ————————-

    But for now, class, today’s homework assignment is to download the THRIVE movie from the THRIVE website, even if you’ve already purchased a DVD or rental. See, we wouldn’t want to miss compiling any important personal data on you that would jeopardize your rightful place and appropriate ranking in the student body of the selected FEMA campuses to which you will all be assigned.

  9. allison dupar says :

    I’d say sounds like sour grapes…Thrive is a great movie…you are all sheeple I suppose?

    • NonFiction says :

      Yeah, Allison, it is a great movie if you can get past the idea that they claim it is true.

      And I say that because I am not a sheople.

      {{{ Muertos, where is my freaking paycheck? The mailman was here, and my disinformation check was not in the box again…whazzup??? }}}
      😀

  10. Zachary Jakobs says :

    Hey Muertos, I just saw Thrive earlier today, and you know, I think I’m going to take the same standpoint I had with the Zeitgeist films and the Loose Change films. I’m going to take the Fox Mulder approach of “I want to believe”. Because really, almost all Conspiracy Theories are founded on truth in some form or another. Usually based around anomalies, such as the crop circles mentioned earlier in the movie, or the signs of controlled demolition at the twin towers in Zeitgeist.

    I remember a few years back people talked about The “Project For The New American Century” the way you’re talking about thrive (granted Thrive’s inclusion of alien stuff lost me at times, but again, Fox Mulder “I want to believe”). In the past years PNAC has been proven to be a real think-tank consisting of many key figures in the American business world and government.

    Basically what I’m saying is, you should be incredibly skeptical about this stuff, but don’t just blow it off entirely. Everything should be taken with a grain of salt. Please respond I want to hear your thoughts.

    • muertos says :

      You “want to believe” in conspiracy theories? Why? Why would you want to sign on to such a negative, nihilistic and depressing belief system? If you swallowed Loose Change and Zeitgeist–both films chock-full of factual errors and outright lies–it’s not surprising that you responded well to the same sort of false material in Thrive.

      “Don’t dismiss it, it could be true” is a refrain I hear often from people who beg me to believe in conspiracy theories. (Not that you’re doing that, but there’s common ground between that refrain and what you’re saying). This at least admits that conspiracy thinking is a totally faith-based belief system, divorced from factual proof and critical thinking. I take a more rational approach. Why believe in something if there’s no evidence to prove it–especially if people, such as those who made Thrive, say they want to take action to change society based on this belief? That’s a recipe for disaster right there. So no, I’m not going to give Thrive the benefit of some artificial doubt simply on principle. Besides, what doubt is there to benefit from? Crop circles are made by humans. Free energy does not exist. The Global Domination Agenda does not exist. 9/11 was not an inside job. We know these things for facts–we can prove them. Trying to invent a doubt just for the sake of justifying a belief is, in my mind, quite irrational.

      At its core, movies like Loose Change, Zeitgeist and Thrive ask their audiences to abandon rationality wholesale. The whole point of this blog is to demonstrate to people that you can’t count rationality out quite yet. You may “want to believe,” but the real world doesn’t work that way. That’s my point in making this blog.

      • Zachary Jakobs says :

        What I meant by “I want to believe” was that I’d really like to believe in the existence of extra-terrestrials and free energy tech. And actually if Zero Point energy is so impossible then why is the Massachusets Institute of Technology been researching it and developing it. I find it hard to believe that something that so many people claim to be true is false simply because we ourselves have not seen it in person. There have been many cases of technology being hidden away from years before they are released to the public.

        And I really don’t think you understood what I was saying. I appreciate your blog fully. I never stated that I believed these conspiracy theories, I just find them intriguing because there are in fact many suspicious happenings that would lead one to believe that something is amiss. And a lot of times the explanations for these happenings do not add up.

        For example, with the crop circles (and I know this is where I might lose you, but hey so it goes) A lot of them are so intricate that the kind resources it would take to create them would be astronomical (pun-intended) it seems highly unlikely that anyone would spend the kind of money and waste the kind of time and resources it would take to create some of them. Obviously most of them are hoaxes, but some of them just make me wonder if maybe, just maybe we aren’t alone.

        Oh, and hey, I just read the letter of disassociation. They say that they each in their own parts where they were talking about their subjects the believed what they were saying, but didn’t believe a lot of the other stuff.
        And on another note we kind of are headed for a corporatocracy with the latest things that have been happening, like citizen’s united are kind of terrifying.

        Sorry, I’m being kind of scatterbrained.

      • muertos says :

        OK, thanks for clarifying.

      • Zachary Jakobs says :

        Basically, I don’t buy it, but it would be really, really cool if it were true. You know? With conspiracy theories you have several types of people. Those who believe it somehow matters and want to debunk it, those who do not care, and those who do not believe it but wish to be proven wrong.

        Then there’s the fanatics…. (._. )

      • Idiot muertos says :

        you must spend hours upon hours writing the same drivel, the same BS, the same “trust government all will be well” crap.
        i suppose by this point you actually believe what you are writing. but every page i look at it is the same little group of people ranting about how stupid, incorrect, and wrong this film is. your complete anti-stance on this only confirms the truth behind who you are… an idiot.
        Is there ANY part you do agree with? of course not lol

  11. PCMcGee says :

    Knowing what I know about The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement, you either haven’t looked at it thoroughly, or this whole thing is “Project Bluebeam”, Thrive, crop circles, Pleadians and all. Truth❤ Freedom

  12. Daws says :

    For those who think lone people on their own couldn’t possibly put out debunkings like these, I’m surprised they didn’t then conclude therefore that aliens musta done it…😛

  13. Douglas Barnes says :

    Dammit, stop being off Twitter!

  14. Fancy Feet says :

    dont fuckn care if you are or not…🙂

  15. Neo says :

    OF COURSE YOU ARE A DISINFO AGENT BUT YOU OWN THE SURVEY SO YOU CHANGED ALL THE VOTES!!!

    • a rational person says :

      listen, ya little scrote, it’s way past your bedtime. u been stinking up this blog with your caps lock bullshit since you got here and we’re all sick of smelling your farts. mommy says its time to shut down the internet and go to bed like a big boy mkay? here u better put on your zeitgest jammies and snuggle up to your alex jones doll. in the mean time u can just fuck right the hell off with your disinfo bullshit.

      • Neo says :

        AHA THATS DOUBLESPEAK FOR IF YOU DONT SHUT UP WERE GONNA KILL YOU!!! WELL YOU CAN NEVER KILL ME I WILL ORGANIZE AN UPRISING AND STOP YOUR TORTURE!!! I AM NEO THE SAVIOR!!!

      • Wyboth says :

        How did you know? You must be psychic!😀 (inside joke for those who don’t know)

        Now, really. You’re so stupid that you don’t even know when you’ve been insulted. A Rational Person basically said: “You are about as intelligent as a toddler. Please stop posting here; you’re getting in the way of discussion.” No death threats, no doublespeak, just pure diss, which went in one ear and out the other. You just may be the dumbest person ever to visit here.

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